ANGEL

[Maddie]

Check out Angel on Wednesday. Spike has returned and now he's in Los Angeles with Angel. This should be good.Angel and Spike have never really gotten along

I surely cant wait ;D

[PointOfFact]

Already knew Spike was gonna be on Angel, see interviews/spoilers/ect, plus the end of the premiere. But good to know! I'm looking forward to the nit picking they'll be doing to each other.

[Gardez]

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ANGEL Wednesday Oct.8th

We'll find out if Spike is really a..
GHOST?

[DarkChild]

The season premiere was okay. I didnt like it they showed Spike for like 10 seconds at the end. I dont like them working at that place with all those ppl i liked them working back at the hotel when it was only them and not all the dozen ppl. The new girl looks kew. Harmony is jokes. I like when Angel had a short spikey hair not how it looks now. Either then that the premiere was okay.

[PointOfFact]

I think the premiere was well thought out and that having Spike at the end for about 5 seconds was a great way to end a premiere, suspenceful, leaving you wanting more, making sure you'll tune in for the next epsiode. Good way, Joss' exhaustion isn't showing yet, hopefully it'll be a while before it happens.

RE: Angel's Hair.

Doesn't it look the way it looked in season two's 'Have You Once or Ever Been' when they flashed back to the 50's? That's just what it reminds me of, heh. Also, not a big fan of it. So big, so tall, so...blackish looking instead of his natural brown. I say he dyed it, but hey, just me talking here.

[Maddie]

I'll defenitly be tuned into the next episdoe, because of te season Premiere ending

Also, I didn't like Angel's hair either. I thought it was horrible. I liked his old do.

[PointOfFact]

Definately. It was way better when it was looks-like-i-just-rolled-out-of-bed spikey than 50's.

[Gardez]

That was good!

I actually liked 5x2 better than 5x1.
And, um...better add spolier space here.....
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And I was actually wondering if Spike had gone bad, again...?

Heres some of my fav. lines:

Harmony:
'Slayer loving freak!'
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Angel: 'Casper'
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Harmony:
'Oh, like not telling anyone about bucket o'lawyer'.
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Angel:
'That was you hitting me?!'
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and Spike:
'I'm his date'.

[Maddie]

The last line you have written there,
"I'm his date"
is my fav.

[PointOfFact]

Angel 5.2 Spoilers

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Hey! Wow, this episode...dunno how to describe it. It had it's funny moments, not so funny moments, heart warming moments, angry moments. All of the sort. But the thing that made this episode so special for me is...it might be a decease of some kind...but just seeing James (On TV, in a Picture, in a Comp. Interview, ect.) just lights up my day and makes me smile. This episode being based around Spike's return was just making me so happy, you know, he's back, and this time for more then 5 seconds.

The only thing that I *really* didn't like, and it *really* made me sort of angry was the ending. When he went to Fred for help, said she had a....'cute' noggin or whatever....you could sort of see the writers setting something up for them. As in a relationship sort of deal, there was a...let's call it a 'spark'. I hated that. At the beginning all he did was wanna go see Buffy, hold her again, talk to her, be with *her*. At the end what'd he do? Forget about her?

Just because Spike died, does that mean his love died for Buffy as well? It doesn't have to, he loved her, still does, you can tell. But the way Spike was being all emotional towards Fred and eyeing her, and complimenting her....the writers have something planned. And if they hook Spike and Fred up I don't know if seeing Spike (the character, not James himself) will make me smile anymore. Spike belongs with Buffy. Spike + Buffy = Love. Spike doesn't belong with Fred. Spike + Fred = Eugh. I'm just so worried they'll do something to screw up Buffy's entrance around May. He'll always love her, but with Angel...he went away and he barely loves her anymore. Is that something we want to happen with Spike and Buffy? No. But also, like Angel said (Angel = Writers really if you think about it) that Spike and Angel are nothing alike. Which, thank god for that.

Okay so stuff about it I liked.

Harmony - So Cordy like, so sarcastic, so... 'We had a relationship, talk to me' even when all Spike did was use her when he was soulless. It was so funny, loved seeing her. Even if it's only for a few episodes I'll enjoy her stay on Angel.

Eve - Thank gawd, no sign of her. I mean, I am really trying to give her a chance and like her but I don't think I have it in me. She gave off way too many bad vibes when she first appeared, bad as in 'Get off the show' not bad as in 'Evil character I'd love to hate'.

Spike - Sexy as ever. His accent has changed a bit though. He's making his t's disappear a little more. But still, amazing. I think his lines were dead on, perfectly punned. The jokes were fantastic. My favorite part of it though was at the beginning where he went for Angel, went through him, went through the desk, stared down at it and then 'Bugger.' Perfect. Just absolutely perfect timing, awesome.

Angel - I dunno, I've never really liked Angel, watching the show really for James/Spike only. But let me tell you, David, his lines were great, he was in depth with his character's anger, pbuttion, avoidy...hehe. Giving me a reason to look forward to more non-revolving-around-spike episodes.

Lorne - So underused. He's a cast member right? Where was he throughout this? How many times did he appear? Once? Twice? Three times max., I'd say. I love his character and I'd love for him to be used more, but I'm just saying he would work better as a recurring role.

Fred - Okay uhm...I don't really like her. Not just cuz of the Spike thing...she's always been a bit too...shy/stutterish to me. Not Tara stutterish but just unbelievably annoying stutterish (don't ask, I made it up lmao.)

I liked how they showed the scene from the series finale of Buffy at the beginning. The holding of hands, the Spike crumbling to his death *tear* and then immediately going to him in W&H. Brilliant.

I'm really waiting for the next episode, anticipating it. Finally it looks like Angel will forget about his love for Buffy altogether, never really worked, no intimacy. Gotta have that. They had there good times, I loved Angelus, on both shows. But I dunno, never really fit. I didn't hate it, I don't *hate* Angel, I just kind of disliked them both (as in the relationship [buffy/angel] and angel himself).

Okay so, yay. There we go. Two other people I think have posted while I've written this, hehe. Email = handy.




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[DarkChild]

5X2 episode was good i loved it. Spike was hilarious and like always looked good. There were some parts where it was touching and sad like at the end when Spike was telling Fred y he kept vanishing. Very much i loved the episode and cant wait for next week.

[Gardez]

Good news for ANGEL.

WB has ordered a full fifth season.

www.greatlink.org/dcisV2.asp?url=http://www.greatlink.org/shownewsitem.asp?item=2658

...and they didnt have to.

[Gardez]

hEY sPIKESgIRL,

qUOTE:
The only thing that I *really* didn't like, and it *really* made me sort of angry was the ending. When he went to Fred for help, said she had a....'cute' noggin or whatever....you could sort of see the writers setting something up for them. As in a relationship sort of deal, there was a...let's call it a 'spark'. I hated that. At the beginning all he did was wanna go see Buffy, hold her again, talk to her, be with *her*. At the end what'd he do? Forget about her?
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I also caught that and was like:
'WTF?!'
He 'just' died 'for' Buffy, certainly not for the 'bloody world', and already hes got an eye for Fred?
...poor writing there..cant wait for Buffy to show up (during sweeps)... bet hes solid enough to 'beat on' by then!
LOL, it would be funny if he 'just' kissed Fred for the very first time ever, turned around and saw Buffy watching them...he would deserve what ever he gets after that!

Maybe Spike's just flirting w/Fred so that she will help him..u can tell she is scared of him...at least for now....
we'll see..

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[PointOfFact]

Hey guys! I'm just on for a minute, I'm in Richmond, Virginia and at an Aunt's house, using the computer. I *would* be upstairs chatting it up but my gawd, uhm, okay, boring, lmao.

T,

He did! He did! He died for Buffy, and Buffy alone. Because Buffy had literally called him a champion in the finale and Buffy loved him and she alone was the one he wanted to save by saving the world as well. He probably wouldn't have minded one way or the other if the whole world died, it was *her* he was saving and he did that, he saved her, along with the world.

And now, I'm really ticked off. Fred and Spike...uhm no? No spark, no kissing, no anything between them please. It would be funny for them to have a first kiss while Buffy appeared when their head's seperated and Spike would deserve everything Buffy could throw at him. *But*....do you really see Fred and Spike as love interest's? I mean, it would be like dating Willow but with long, brown hair and gl@sses for christ's sake! Spike had no interest in Willow, there's really no difference between Fred and Willow *besides* Willow's hair being red and Willow doesn't stutter.

Spike got his soul for who? Buffy. Spike saved the world for who? Buffy. Spike's only been sure of one thing in his years of living, and what was it? Buffy. Who has Spike truly loved in his long life, mortal and immortal? Buffy. Now let's get a peek at Fred's connection.

Who has never heard of Spike/William the Bloody? Fred. Who has never heard of Fred/Winifred Burkle? Spike. Who has *just* met? Spike and Fred. Who shouldn't have any chemistry between them? Spike and Fred.

I mean look at the facts, okay? Spike knew Buffy for years and always really had a thing for her from the start but it wasn't exactly love until season five. And from there on it changed to true, deap, p@ssionate love in season seven. (Sure it was intimate in season six but they were just ...sex slaves to each other. Even if Spike did love her then and Buffy had feelings for him, it wasn't deep, p@ssionate, true, intimate love until season six.) I mean, the look on Buffy's face when she first saw Spike in the season seven opener was just ...'Oh my gawd...he's back and he's hurt...' you know?

In spoilers I've read for the episode 'Hell Bound' (5x4 I *think*) shows that Fred says somewhere along the lines 'You're worth saving' to Spike. Now she's scared of him now but ...she starts caring for him? What the hell is up with that? I don't get it at all. Scared, caring, petrified, loving. I hope it just gets from scared to 'friendship' not 'relationship'. I dunno, I would dread every new episode of Angel. And you could probably bet I would cry during it too, seeing Fred and Spike together as a couple if it ever came to that. They *don't* click, they shouldn't.

What they should do is have a long distance relationship between Buffy and Spike when Spike becomes flesh/blood again so he can pick up a phone. When Spike becomes corporeal(sp) he should call Buffy in Europe and they should have phone calls from time to time and love each other and have Buffy's appearance somehow worked into that for the sweeps so she just doesn't *show* up. And you know Spike would do anything to get Buffy in L.A. with him or to keep a relationship with her so the phone thing would work. And Buffy loves him now and it would be an awesome surprise to have him back to her, right? They should just work a Buffy/Spike relationship in there sometime. Maybe have Sarah lend her voice for telephone convos or something. Maybe, maybe not. It could happen, good idea to, anything to keep Spike and Fred appart.

Oh my gawd, can you tell I get so....emotional when it comes to Buffy/Spike vs. Fred/Spike? Hehe, it's just a topic I like discussing so I can go down on Fred, who I like, I do, but I don't like her *enough* for her to have a relationship with anyone besides Gunn or Wesley, hehe.

[doublegulp20]

Can someone fill me in? I'm so lost. What happened to Cordellia last season. I have missed so much i have no idea what is going on but i noticed that she wasn't in the credits for this season unless i missed it. Someone please fill me in. Thanks.

[PointOfFact]

Charisma Carpenter (Cordy) is no longer a part of the show, the character is in a coma. Cordy went evil last season, gave birth to the evil Jasmin, and went into a coma. Charisma, however, was actually pregnant so for the last...I dunno...3 episodes of last season maybe...she wasn't really used. You just saw flashes of her laying ontop of a coffin, covered in a vail because being very, very pregnant wouldn't let her do much else. Now she has a beautiful baby boy and need to be a mom now so she's not gonna join the angel cast this year, although she may guest star, dunno. So that's the info.

[Gardez]

SpikesGirl,

Nice pic!

I like the fact that A&A were looking at each other and smiling as they walked down the aisle after the ceremony.

I was at a wedding just over a year ago, and that Bride and Groom didn't do this - they are getting divorced, already.

Disposable marriage, just another sign of the times.. sigh..

Anyway, G/L A&A!
Not that I think they'll need it.

Ok, ANGEL 5X3

My fav part was when Nena (sp?) asked if Angel was a Frankenstein...lol.

Um, did Lorne say that the day Angel opened the letter w/the amulet was their first day at W&H?

Hmmmmmmm...

[PointOfFact]

QUOTE:

Um, did Lorne say that the day Angel opened the letter w/the amulet was their first day at W&H?
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Oh please! That wasn't there first day, haha. In that very episode, when Angel opened the amulet, there was like...3 days in that episode alone! Wow, wee.

My favorite part was at the beginning when they pretended to be having a picnic. Also at the end when the gang was in Angel's new place.

Gunn - So, werewolf girl. Think you got a shot?
Angel - *looking around* Well she gave me a look.

Funny. But ugh, most hated the Fred/Spike scenes. Too much sparkage! No, no, no, no!

Also, another thing about 5x2 that I just realized, which I laughed and laughed at.

Harmony - I guess a leopard can't change it's stripes.
Spike - Leopards have spots, you ninny, stripes.

Harmony - *re: Angel saying Spike can't open up* Preaching to the horse's mouth.

She *really* sucks at those! Few, okay, funny.

Also, thanks on the pic. I was searching google for pics and I remember Ally and Alexis just got married and I came across this one and I'm like 'PERFECT!' And the size on it was the size where I found it so it was all good and didn't become blurry or anything.

Oh!! And I counted my shirt. I was like... dying of surprise when I counted the names. 127 names! My gawd, can you believe it! I knew I got a lot of people to sign but I mean, wow. Way more then I thought. I thought maybe.. 80 or 90, ya know? I'm looking for the digital camera right now. (And can you believe all those names fit on the shirt?)

[DarkChild]

The latest episode of Angel was wicked. I wud definitely support a fred/spike relationship. Like, exactly wut happened when Angel left Buffy she had a one nite stand with Parker, a relationship with Riley and a so-called relationship with Spike. While, Angel hasnt been in a relationship since his show has started and i dont want to c Spike being lonely and not dating for 5 yrs too. I definitly saw chemistry between them on the episode between them two and i wu definitely want smthg between them. Hope there is! Then when Buffy comes i hope she gets wut shes put Spike through. It isnt like Buffy is coming back for good so i wud want spike to move on.

[PointOfFact]

Mk...not *even* gonna get mad or retort to/about that because that'll result in rudeness, anger... ect. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion so whatever... mhm okay that said.....